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There, after twenty minutes of handing over, you can view all kinds of storage boxes. Thinwire Ethernet network. It is about the smallest Thinwire Ethernet network. It is a bent BNC lead, about 100mm long, and is covered with T-pieces and 50 ohm terminator at both ends. I have been looking for BNC T-pieces on which I can connect another terminator to a test device, and I found two of them.

When I was preparing to take the test, I found myself considering the absurdity of this situation. I last worked with Thinwire in the mid-1990s, and luckily, I probably never met another person. If you have never encountered Thinwire, thank you very much. A coaxial cable connects all computers on the network, and on that computer, the smallest failure will cause all failures.

So why do I insist on making all parts, even though it may be the smallest variant? Some kind of souvenir that reminds me of the good old days. Is it running in the office with a cable tester? Or am I just going back to the past as a collector, like a Tolkien dragon perching on the top of an e-waste mountain instead of


For many readers, the following story may be a familiar story, which is one of the things that may be useful for a certain day in a large number of boxes, or even one of the things that is too unreasonable. There may be some readers that this is not a problem, but I doubt that I will try it alone from time to time, so it is worth studying. Why do we do this and what strategies can be adopted to mitigate it?

Decades ago, ordering electronic components was a rather slow and expensive process. The mail order company has a limited number of paper catalogs, and the quantity is limited. Your order must go through two postal delays to reach the supplier, and then the parts enter you again. This is written from a small country, and I can only imagine additional delays when the order must cross a continent.

Therefore, there was a culture of accumulating electronic waste at that time. Especially if you are a rude teenager

There is no online next-day delivery service, and even if there is, you may not be able to afford it. People rely on dead electronic parts as a source of parts and exchange other parts. They may still grab a lot of feature kits on the way. After all, if it works, it would be too lost, right?

If your course follows my course, you will know where the course is going. After several years of electronic efforts, even if it is not a complete Tolkien, I still have a treasure close to the proportion of a mini-dragon. I have enough space, but even I know it’s a bit out of control. Something must be done.

It is important to understand that in order to successfully handle matters of this nature, the persons involved must be aware that this has become a problem. People will spare no effort to tell them, but this is not constructive, because the solution here must come from within. Disposing of a large amount of garbage is a daunting prospect, and increasing stress or stress will not alleviate the situation.

A few years ago, the way I chose to do this was to apply a rigorous evaluation strategy to each project, and to adopt a set of standards applicable to it and determine its fate. I looked at the value, usefulness, and how long it has been since I used or even looked at the project, and used the information I found to inform my decision.

The value is easy. How much is it worth? If it was a damage to the time base panel of a Philips TV in the 1970s, it might not be. To the trash can! More difficult is the intangible value. Does this remind me of anything? For example, in my student broadcast, this is the non-functional prototype amplifier board I used. I did it, thinking of the good time spent in the cramped studio. But will this reappear in my life? Let's face it, no. In the trash can.

Surprisingly, it was full of old parts. Other chips with date codes of the 1970s and 1980s are stuffed into the cookie jar. I never expected to be confused about this, so I consulted Google about the obscure part number, just wondering what I got. Finally, I continue to list some old sales examples, which are all stuck on a piece of conductive foam. I will never need a few 68000 or Z80 holders with supporting chips, but at least they only take up very little space.

Usefulness couldn't be simpler. Tools, please continue to use. Motors are another matter. You know what's going on, tear something apart, put some motors in the end and put them aside because they are too good to be thrown away. I started putting all the motors I found into plastic buckets, thinking that I would collect them together and they would be useful one day. I hope to take pictures now because I can tell you that a bathtub is full of more motors that I cannot use in my life. I adopted another rule, keeping only a part of the large amount of things I own, and putting the rest on my now rapidly growing metal scrap pile.

Finally, I set a time limit for all other projects that have not yet been promoted. If I have done nothing for ten years and it has no intrinsic or emotional value, it will be gone. I was surprised at the things I didn’t know I still had, which were carefully packed in boxes. For example, where on earth can I buy a bunch of Exabyte data backup tapes, why stick to a bunch of useless and outdated VESA local bus graphics cards?

Finally, when I transported the piles of waste, garbage, and recyclables to their respective destinations, I only had a small portion of plastic buckets left. Power cables and extensions, data, signal and network cables, electronic components and tools. One set of shelves occupies a lot, so I can put all the other non-electronic scraps of life in the 21st century on the remaining shelves. A few years later, I am now very vigilant and continue to work harder. If I have no urgent need for anything, it will not go with me. I can buy components online as needed, so I hardly need to keep any inventory. This is not to say that I am completely cured, I found that I now own more than one sewing machine, and somehow a bunch of ATX power supplies have become part of my life, but at least I can foresee the danger.

I'm sure you will have your own battle story about the trash tide. it seems

. Tell us your horror story in the comments and tell us how you handle it. If you want to know why I still have the Thinwire network, then I don't know. Maybe it has a life of its own, and it is vaguely visible when I oust its brothers.

I was very familiar when I moved...

Hey Hackaday writers, it’s really interesting to see a set of photos for your workbench, test equipment, and ongoing projects, and some comments (a seminar, "show and tell") . (If I did it before, then I will definitely miss it, and if there is a new group of writers, maybe it's worth refreshing?)

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I am going through the same experience. Since we became the "empty nest elderly", we have moved and reduced the size of the house. My goal is to sort the bins before moving them. I did a certain amount of effort, but in the end it ended in an epic failure category. Now my studio is much smaller, but relatively small, because my old studio is the entire basement of my first home. Now, I have three workbenches on the picnic table, so don't feel sorry for me (the classic "first world problem"). The frantic repurchase of "parts or repair" items on eBay a few years ago didn't help.

My problem is that every part I own will become cherished forever. I prefer to abandon things (a solemn promise that they will love and cherish parts like me).

If I have discipline, the guy has this discipline! ! ! :

However, this person is more like what I did when I was working on the project. I teased the explosion and couldn't find anything.

It looks like my father's garage, basement and office.

He retired last year and they plan to sell the house. Obviously, he has no way to part ways with anyone. After leaving Florida for a month, I flew off-road and rented two 40-yard bins filled with edges. It killed me recycling a lot of old computers and radio equipment, but it needs to be completed. I put a huge new trash can in the box he collected, and drew out the building he had never been to from the vacuum tube he collected.

They went home and almost didn't notice.

After learning valuable lessons from it, I now go to a local ham exchange party once a year, and only scattered the accumulated things in the car. It made some teenagers there very happy.

You will never be able to convince me that these are not two photos of the same workshop, just facing different directions.


Before the project:

After the project ends:

In the two John Square blogs, the only difference is two completely different osint jpeg interceptions...Thinking that my HaD friends will be interesting...I stand out from them, because one is my ultimate dream state and the other is me Of abundance and reality. Guess which...

For a second I thought you took a picture of my studio before the flood

Well, good idea eccentric electronics-also particularly interested in the psychology of the workplace

Re-inspiration; focus, discipline and commitment, while being open to diversified rebalancing projects.

Over the years, I have had many workplaces, mainly in my main residence, so I get stuck easily

I am very confused due to my interest in the many expansions and intersections of my main business

Be engaged in the second major, that is, from electronics/mechanics to food science/microbiology,

Don’t want to be full of fancy places and part of a proof-of-concept project (which will be used here soon),

So for the time being, because of time constraints, this is my main office for light electronic equipment, rarely

The main point of keeping up with the key points of my career, which means earning dollars (day trading)

A lot of reading, trying and verifying the preliminary electronic design, the monitor is:

Left: Display, my 5 most volatile ASX stocks are falling:-

Center: Dell Inspiron 1545 -15" 720p office/email and CAD programs, especially PCB, code analysis

Right: Acer Aspire 8920G-18-inch 1080p can double the deal from the bed

Because I dabble in stocks at other times and don’t want to get up, I trade and fall asleep

Although mainly used in documentaries, including DTB-T, technical papers and AI test code-scan script

The forum explaining the user name and nickname pattern re-states the facts and the truth – about Naf’s statement;-)

Yes, I know all the old technologies except Hantek USB-DSO (including 1631A/D and others), but it has been fixed

They all meet the needs, but a large laptop can be upgraded in a few days for more serious travel...

It is embarrassing compared to other pictures-thanks a lot sonofthunderboanerges

Fully understand what you mean (my chemistry laboratory is completely different), enough to speak my best defense

Probably because my workplace is messy (1 in 5), forcing me to focus more

Deal with it disciplinedly, so I will never feel an unusual sense of pressure transition

Between functions/screens!


A few years ago, I thought of a strange idea, my original first website address is different from my gateway email

The vector consists of only one ascii char, so far, I haven’t noticed anyone with the same scene

It doesn't seem to be much, providing simple business cards and other options-anyone?

Try to get very small domain names from companies like GO DADDY. Don't worry about the extension, it can be anything and it can still be used (ie .tv, .do, .co, etc.). Religiously pay the domain name fee every year on time, or release it to domain name thieves. Then use the email service of your web hosting provider. You can create email redirects of any length or subject around your small domain name. I was lucky and grabbed a 4-character domain name with my initials. I just need to figure out how to set the last two digits to an interesting or numbing subject. Just like MM99. com (not mine-just an example). Then, you can do email redirection, such as hacker@MM99.com or 1@mm99.com or mike@mm99.com, etc. Why choose 99? Suppose it’s your DOB, anniversary,

Decades ago, I bought the book "Messy Position" by "The Millionaire Janitor Don Aslett" (The Millionaire Janitor Don Aslett).

Through it, I realized that most of my miscellaneous things are emotional bags...

"One day this will be necessary"

"I will solve this problem"

"I am proud of this acquisition!"

"When the zombie apocalypse(TM) arrives, I will be ready!"

I am still struggling in the chaos, but now I know why!

B ^)

He has the same book!

After reading it, I didn't get a happy smile, and realized that I am not alone in this fixed circle of recyclable things!

I try to survive by getting into the habit of conducting a reality check every year... Has this trash not been touched or used in 3 years? Then put it on another squirrel. . . I have been suffering from the loss of test equipment for many years, and I would say that this is the hardest thing to let go. . . I always carry the extra... Finally, I saw a thread in my mind like a dream workbench, but once a year, it lasted 4 times a day. .Then perform multiple repairs again, which will produce good results...looks good, but it will also bring a bad feeling of being too clean; 0)p

It almost looks like a showroom. .You don’t know where to work, but you actually think it looks really good!

It's like a showroom where there are no children or animals, no dust, everything is shining!

Can I print on rLab and put it on the wall (every cabinet door and every drawer)?


I just left STUFF for my children.

Give your child a galaxy benefit and deal with it as soon as possible.

Source: Things from my late mother who just spent the summer... and things her parents never dealt with. From about 1900 to the present, thousands of documents, souvenirs, trinkets, treasures and all other items are all mixed together and piled up in a nearly homing manner. 0/10-no longer execute.

I'm experiencing it now-three years after my grandmother passed away. Grandpa refused to give up things because "It might be important!" or "It's still good. I don't want them (insert selected famous hypernyms, usually words about Mexicans) to start trying and try to sell it!" I like best "I might need it someday" – seriously, how many 5-gallon barrels of old rusty tools and the accompanying fishing tackle box, coffee cans and baby food cans full of old rusty nails and screws (half of them) Do people over 90 years old need it?

The first week after her death was about great. My wife was there to help. When she forced him to get rid of things, he responded better to her (mostly grandma had to stop others from eating, and grandpa would *go*, no matter who took it) . Except for the storage shed and utility room in the garage, every room and closet of his three-bedroom house is full of garbage. When we left, there were only things in his closet. Each room had a bed, bedside table and dressing table. My brother and cousin helped clean things up in a year. Since then, it has been an uphill battle to get rid of everything in his farmhouse. We are talking about the "going on a path" scenario. I don’t like Christmas because last year he had 3 space heaters operating unattended, one of which lost his leg and was placed on a pair of old bricks on the wooden floor.

We took out stacks of old newspapers and checks, dating back to the 70s. The farmhouse was built in the 1940s. All newspapers and wooden buildings have turned the house into a huge tinder box, just waiting for wandering sparks.

At least he is trying to get rid of one thing he no longer needs or wants-his house in town!

A box of screws with stripped heads? Well, it is wasteful to make improvised explosive devices with beautiful new screws...

Unless you have the forging ability, there is no other use.

Put them in ReStores. Trust me, someone will want these scraps. Some people actually want the rusty appearance. That is my favorite store to get metal hardware, by the way!

I am experiencing it now. We just moved our parents to a nursing home. They lived in the same house for more than 50 years. Dad is a ham and likes to play with electronic products (like me). Everything we sent to the recyclers broke my heart. Even then, I took a few cars home with electronics. Fortunately, I have a rod magazine to store some of them.

My daughter came to town one weekend to help clean the house. I told her that one day she would make it again with my stuff. Her answer is that the quality of the places she chooses for me will depend on the amount of work she has to deal with. :-)

I hope I can downsize by then.

smart kid! I want to remember that.

"A few years ago, when I chose to perform this process, the method I chose was to apply a rigorous evaluation strategy to each project, and to adopt a set of standards applicable to it and determine its fate."

I find it very interesting. This article started with a short sparse network and then entered the "evaluation work".

If *anyone* doesn’t want a short piece of 50 ohm coaxial cable, BNC T-connector or 50 ohm terminator, dear god, I will take it all. These things are consumables-you can never stand it. Especially BNC, because you can bring cheap dual bananas to BNC female headers and use them as a single cable for meters, power supplies, etc.

I almost never throw away cables or adapters (if it's not RF, they will never be out of date, they will never be out of date)-just buy them an organization kit and throw them there. Then go offline for a few months and you will see it saying: "Damn, where did all the BNC T-shirts go?"

Is this a subtle call for help?

People clearly asked for free coaxial cables and BNC adapters. :)

I go to the wine cellar to check...think I have...see you in a month!

To be fair, you don't want to use Thinwire. In most cases, the nasty solid and crimp connectors will fail when you breathe. Part of the reason why the network can run such a PITA is because.

Okay, coaxial cable may be bullshit, but the tee and terminator are good. A few inches of coaxial cable is cheaper than 2 BNC T-shirts and 2 50 ohm terminator.

Wait a minute... Are you saying that I am not the only person with bad luck to get the Thinwire 50 ohm Novell network to work? I thought I was alone. The regular reprimands I get from my boss make me feel like I still am.

Haven't you filled the cables with ether regularly?

Every six months or 50 billion data packets, whichever comes first. Unless you use synthetic ether, you can get rid of 12mo 100B.

No, but I am working on an automatic filling device. I think our sales staff at the time didn't take any effort... leakage or deliberate waste of supply... you are the judge.

At least not token ring. The damn token keeps falling off...

I was lucky enough to install the first token ring network in the southern hemisphere. There are many symbolic "compatibility" issues. I don't think Token Ring is well known? For large networks, it is more of a niche market.

Didn't they even realize that the token must go in the opposite direction?

That's half of the problem-they are US tokens, and every once in a while they return to the wrong path. The other half of the problem is that American tokens are Empire tokens and will be stuck in metric cables. I still remember the terrible error message "Network Abend".

I still plan to (re)implement a small thin-line segment on the network. I have some old machines. None of the 10BaseT network cards of these machines are used, but there are thin-line network cards.

The GPIB-ENET box with BNC connector is cheaper than the UTP version. (Of course, the AUI version is the best, but they don’t appear often.)

So yes, there is a 10base-T hub with its UTP port facing the rest of the network, and a 9-inch thin net with tee and terminator to bring old GPIB glitches to the data of Labview VM Within the package.

Recently, I have another use for 10base-2: I must run some network equipment in an RF shielded enclosure for testing. We have a filtered USB passthrough, but not for Ethernet. The PC in the environment is locked too tightly to fill the USB NIC and just bridge the interface, so I have to make other suggestions. Then, I realized that there are many additional RF channels in this chamber! The e-waste recycler turned around and grabbed a pair of old 10base-T hubs with 10base-2 ports, one for indoor use and one for outdoor use. Later I used a pair of BNC-to-N adapter cables (and of course the necessary tee and terminator), and I started my business!

good idea! For other types of sealed enclosures that want to be connected to each other, this may come in handy.

I solved this problem by making my own HackerBox and sending the parts to another person in my state.

I like to recycle old things. Nothing is greater than nothing.

Some of these things are not even useful until you have a sufficient amount of things. In "Do I need a large-capacity pager motor? Amount"

Bottle caps, buttons on old desktop computers, gears on old clocks that once hung on school walls, chopsticks, ribbon cables, old floppy disks...Many art and handicraft items are found in the garbage that should be thrown away Started.

Once, I took the roller ball from the deodorant bottle, and later found that I was filled with a small cookie jar, so I did...um...yes.

Pager mototrs = "brush robot", kids can make it with batteries, old/cheap toothbrushes and pager motors.

I have too many coffee cans, and brainstorming is to arrange them between two 8-inch grids, so they make a self-supporting storage wall, buuuut, I can’t find any grids I like right now. Too bad, the staples are off, the size is wrong, the wood in the shop has cracked into hell, etc. The small works that I must base on seem to be unique in the universe.

Open them with tin scissors and roll them into thin sheets, then fold a bunch of small decorative snuff boxes or tea candle holders out of the metal and sell them.

At this time, I put them all in the recycling bin. Empty coffee cans are not a rare commodity, I seem to be able to produce a lot.

Gerry Kennedy

I see that as the sales of coffee in aluminum foil bags or plastic "cans" increase, the number of coffee cans will decrease.

…Or small SSC (Single Serving Coffee) pods!

"Dax wrote:

Once, I took the ball from the roll-on deodorant bottle"

Yes, I did the same, I think they can be used as table football (for table football).

But I don’t have a table, nor does the boss’s lounge!

To be precise, I still stick to the pink South African desert crab hair from the 1970s. I will find out soon.

The huge lazy Susan... That's the number of deodorizing balls I have to deal with.

If I were hunted down, I thought about bringing a big bag and throwing it behind me.

Ren, you hit your head. No wonder the "crazy" nickname given to me by my family never seemed to fit-now I can be sure that one day, my decades-long dedication will not be wasted! genius! ;)

Can you warn me before throwing everything away? That day, a nice pickup truck will be waiting at your door... :-) Also, one of my vesa local bus graphics cards (a year ago) was dead, and the other one was flaky Yes, so...

Yes, VLB graphics cards will be sold exclusively on eBay soon. Is it definitely a collectible for those who still own the old 386? VLB system.

Wow! In my methodical handling of recycling or garbage, this sounds like my dilemma. The photos of the chips are really shocking.

The idea of ​​a cookie jar left a deep impression on me!

Now, my chip will have EMP protection!

One day, I realized that parts that are not sorted (and therefore cannot be found, and may be forgotten) are actually worse than no parts at all. If you can't find it when you need it, or forget it at all, then it will never be actually used and therefore will never be useful. It is worse than not having it, because it takes up space.

I added an assessment category: Would I like to organize/categorize?

Surprisingly, this is an effective and intuitive standard that I hardly bother about. These are too good to be thrown away? of course. Am I willing to classify and organize them? No? To the trash can

Correct. A friend who does industrial electronics repair also has a similar problem.

Gave me a big bag of resistors. One bag of hundreds of resistors. Manor of all value. All brand new.

Obviously it is too good to be thrown away, but for him, spending time searching for a few cents is not a good business sense.

On the other hand, I have spare time. I am willing to classify them to a certain extent.

I bought a 16 drawer parts organizer, marked the first 10 drawers with a multiplier tape, and quickly classified the resistors. Now, each drawer has 10 to 100 random resistors, but all of the same size-I can quickly browse dozens of resistors to see if I have or can piece together the correct value.

4 other drawers? Well, handbags do have some precious value, so these have their own drawers.

"It's worse than not having it, because it takes up space."

According to my experience, this is even worse, because I spent 45 minutes searching around for parts that I only knew I had, and then I finally bought it because I couldn't find it.

I am ashamed. It's all so.

I agree with Jenny! If you haven't touched it or needed it for a year, then it will go to the trash can. Buy yourself some contractor garbage bags (U.S. garbage bag lining), and apply a scorched earth policy to the garbage. Then drag them to the local thrift store (for example, Goodwill, Savers, etc.), or take them to the local dump or recycling station. Some will pay for metal parts.

The idea is to throw away the garbage. You need to put it on hold. Either type, so you can stop looking down and try to avoid bending over to sort. The boxes on the shelf are good, but you need a label maker and you need to sort them roughly. Transparent or translucent containers are better. To avoid cable entanglement (they will naturally drive you crazy), you can hang them on the side of the shelf, or take some elastic bands (rubber bands), tie them into small rolls, and put them in boxes classified by type in.

Do not put items in briefcases, ammunition boxes, pelican boxes, etc., unless there is a label. You will be surprised how fast it is, and you will be surprised if you have to open it to check every case! Zippers and latches can be annoying. Do not put them in the kitchen or living area. This is a good way to divorce. Find somewhere you can stretch. Just like in the attic, garage, shed, back porch, or even the old lo boxcar parked near the house, you can connect it through the house’s power, heat and cooling devices. Be sure to block the windows to prevent intruders from entering. You need some shelves and workbenches. The chair has been built into the minivan. Connect video intercoms so that your family knows that you have not abandoned them. Also set up telephone extensions and Ethernet lines for HaD messages.

Now, all you need to do is ask someone to bring you meals. This may be someone you have equipped with a big screen TV connected to NetFlix or Hulu. When you need a nap, don’t forget the sleeping bag and pillow. Your wife will keep knocking on the door, "Did the honey come back into the house?" However, when you sit in the soil, there are a lot of garbage piled around, building things like a crazy scientist!

(Laughs out loud)

"If you haven't touched it for a year or don't need it, then it will go to the trash can."

grr. Okay, try again.

This philosophy applies to parts, paper and many other transient objects. I have some fossils about 60 million years ago. These requirements have slightly different strategies.

If it is neither useful nor decorative, then throw it away

This is a short-term approach. It must be extended to at least ten years. Example: My first SMD audio oscillator was made 20 years ago with a beautiful, not rectangular self-etching PCB on a phenolic PCB material. I have not touched it since moving to my apartment in 1998. But a few months ago, I had to repair the solar regulator and I needed SO8 40106. Cheap chips, of course-cost less than 1/10 of the shipping cost of ordering new chips. :-)

I have some rubbish, but I am not smart enough to know what to do.

There used to be articles such as "CNC made from trash", but when all the motors in the trash can are of different sizes and you don't have two belts or rods that match, how do you make something out of it?

Therefore, I left the rubbish in place and purchased standard size parts. Once I answer this question, it will be easier to solve the problem.

You take a piece of aluminum from another trash can and make an adapter. Duh.

If you can't make things, there is no savings. You will never do anything-but if you can make things, everything else is just raw materials.

For example, if you have thousands of old hard drives, you can tear off the magnets and make an axial magnetic field generator for water wheels.

Ah, Dax mentioned a motto in the topic and related reminders that has worked for me for decades:

1. Parts, any unnailed parts can be used to build the robot immediately

& Should be used for human education, if not for pure pleasure of expression

2. If the parts are nailed in the proper position, it is completely suitable for use

A removal tool, such as a claw hammer, can remove the fixture firmly but professionally.

3. Go to 1

This also made me think of a best inference applicable to the code in the genetic algorithm variant

Explored by those who are proficient; permutations and abnormal data structure primitives represent

Practical devices such as resistors and capacitors to write more subtle code snippets

Provide inferences about the expressed personality intentions, such as in forum comments elsewhere;-)

Man, you need to check spelling in your browser.

Myth thinks he needs more lithium than a spell checker.


You mean to use lithium in the form of batteries to power his robot?

Well, this got me into the "axis magnetic field generator" situation?

Of course, you mean a classic alternator (for example, a Fisher/Paykal motor with permanent magnets reconnected)

Improve efficiency as much as possible under the highest safe voltage, then

It is not an axial magnetic field, but a circular rotating alternating magnetic field (ie a permanent magnet rotor)

The stator coils are arranged to absorb as much magnetic flux changes as possible, and then appropriately

Convert multi-phase rectification into 2-wire low-ripple feed, which is closest to the final distance

Application-You can also use the appropriate SMPS for the intended application...

It only represents a generator with magnets fixed on a disc, with magnetic poles pointing in the direction of the axle.

The magnets of the hard disk drive are already magnetized with alternating north and south poles on the flat sides, so it is simple to glue them to the rotor.

When searching for "axial field" or "axial flux" generators, you will find the following:

They are suitable for any low-speed application because the magnet is fixed on the outer edge of the rotor disk and has a high speed relative to the stator and windings, which means it can generate useful voltage from things that rotate at low speeds. RPM, such as a waterwheel.

I think a key reality to accept is that you will throw out what you need in the (near) future. But this must be _ok_. Let it go. Deal with it when it/it comes.

It just happened to me. Motivated to help others lose weight, consider helping reduce the size of my parents and experience the pressure of potential depression episodes (my ATM feels better), I started to clear out the trash that I haven't encountered in years. I can actually see my workbench now. Archeology tells the history of electronics/project history. It feels better to have the upper hand in my work space.

Less than a month later, I went to the store to buy some things that hadn't been moved for many years, and these things had been sitting on my bench. I almost lost it-until I remembered that before it was cleared, I consciously decided that if I needed something to throw away, I could buy new parts.

So I am still satisfied with it. And there may be another round of cleanup.

well done. And a good way.

A broad person said: "You don't own things, things own you".

Now, all I have to do is to live up to my motto:-(

Scared to death those broad people and their sayings!

Ehud, this is my biggest trouble. Many times, I need some gears or components that have just been released. That drives me crazy again and again. I am now trying to follow your leadership and eliminate some confusion. Thanks for your input.

That's the problem. You can have something for more than ten years. However, if you decide to discard it, you will most likely need it in the next few weeks.

After World War II, my father dabbled in electronics and bought and sold surplus parts on Canal St. At one point, he monopolized the market for banana plugs and sold them to the dealers he bought from there. Use a baby scale to weigh on the kitchen table. As we moved around the block, he was still building a 7-transistor radio. That was 1958.

My father passed away 58 years later, but I have a 20-foot container filled with old military surplus electronic equipment and other good things. Except for most damage, even if there is no damage. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Somewhere there should be a 1940s aspirin tin label labeled "Dull phonograph needle". When we wandered through "things", my sister was always looking for it. Moved from Brooklyn to Arkansas. The mixture is supplied by hardware stores of various fasteners.

It is very tempting to shovel them all into the trash can, but we come from a puritan family for 400 years. Therefore, despite the pain, some things should not be discarded. What was found included a British Telegraph receipt, which was a message sent on November 16, 1861, sent to Message 16 at a cost of 16:1. It must have been sent by Caleb Huse, who bought weapons for the Confederate States of America in England at the time. We have always wondered why he kept it. I always thought it was the first weapon purchase notice sent to Jefferson Davis. However, I just noticed the repetition and arrangement of "16", so its importance may be less than I thought.

I am handling about three 40-foot-long trailers loaded by Dad. (Not counting my personal stuff, this is just three 28-foot trailer loads; -) But this is a complete workshop with lathes, milling machines, etc. and a technical database of 5000 volumes. But there are also many saved bits.

Therefore, we understand your oscilloscope test cable. I also have a pile of fine line garbage. In the past, I left a map of the research laboratory network on the wall so that I could help the administrator solve the problem quickly. When they rewired the twisted pair, we were very excited.

When dealing with my own repository, I concluded that a unique trash can shelf with the same number and a computer database in the trash can are the only viable solution.​​​​ Search quickly and you will know if you own it and where it is. It is essential for hackerspace.

The moral of the story is to allocate a certain amount of space. Once filled, save them only when you are ready to discard something to make room. I use a cabinet to throw away the container. It ensures a ready supply, but avoids loss of control.

OT: Where in Arkansas? I'm at Conway and we need to meet.

Heber Hot Springs 501-365-3121

Brave man.

So will ads on Craig's list be safer? I really want to find someone who wants these things.

Is there a hacking space where shop equipment can be used?

Does anyone within 75 miles want to build a hacker space?

The Milwaukee Makerspace has very few equipment, most of which are "borrowed" people and

the company.

Things to consider...

I think there is a good market for millions of remaining electronic products, especially if they look cool or repairable. I kind of like old military radios.

In any case, I totally feel how difficult it is to throw it away. You only know that there is some value, so you want to see the value that is recognized. You would rather give someone something than just make suggestions. Worse, you don’t want to see others profit from something you simply throw away.

These all show that these things are under control.

Anyway, good luck to you.

Ken's another Mill collector! Next year, someone somewhere is going to install a T-39* box for BC-745 because it is located in the middle of Dad’s trash and I would love to own it. I refused to pay hundreds of dollars to complete the setup of the device because I bought this radio for 10 dollars in 1986. A few years later, when Fair advertised in their catalog, the antenna was repaired. And found the manual from Yascavage while Yascavage was still on sale. Can I put them together, or can all of them be put in the trash can in a few years? These are worse than collecting action sets, and I have never been as complete as I proudly showed them at the MRCA festival on the coast. If you have a BC-348, then there are missing DM-28, PL-103, etc., no, the entire shock mount, manual, "Then Packrat, how many planes do you want to collect!?!?"

Hope to receive a telegram receipt... ?

Recycle; don't throw it away. And don't forget that in the United States, Goodwill will use a variety of electronic products, including CRT screens.

Well, since the Chinese have stopped buying scrap metal, scrap metal is now almost worthless.

Isn't that true? The local mix dropped by about 30 tons.

In Indiana, Goodwill will only use TVs less than 2 inches thick! Will they choose those folded CR tubes?

Thrift stores in Missouri (regardless of the St. Louis area) will not accept CRT. Even in the recycling yard, their recycling cost is $20.

Pay attention to the gold in that trash can. Sometimes, the value of old chips is beyond your imagination.

The 6650s ceramic, launched in 1976, sells for $1,299 or more on eBay

Yes, other good ones might be SID, 4004 etc.

damn you! I'm just going to convince the boss that I'm sick and need to go home, so I can start throwing things... I think about it now I remember that I might have put some 6502 somewhere, so it's better not to throw anything away!

Similarly, the golden fried Pent pro in the literal sense is too ugly for collectors, but there is still about the Federal Reserve in it.

A few years ago, I bought a bunch of old gold ICs (a large box of ICs is still in their tracks and the price is $20). The unit price of an item from China is about $50. I put them on eBay for $25 each and only got a few insulting low-price offers. One of them bid 50 cents each for 5 of them, and stated in the comment "You will never sell them because it is not real gold!" I ended up selling a lot of 12 cars for $250 in cash. Plus a bunch of Nixie tube drivers encountered at the exchange meeting (this is the first time I have been). The lady said that she has many buyers looking for old parts to repair old equipment, especially in Eastern Europe. I got her phone number and later sold her many ARCNET transceiver modules and took my family on vacation.

In any case, I am pretty sure that the reason why a particular processor sells so high is its rarity (not used in the original packaging) rather than its scrap value.

How do you throw everything away? ! ? ! What kind of monster are you! !!? !!? ! ? ,

Over the years, I have experienced it several times-when you hoard the treasure trove, the dynamics are bad. When I was a kid, I prepared a quick solution, cheap heat gun and bucket. In the first few years, the price of LCD monitors has been cheap enough that you can pick up six CRTs per junk day, which is a quick way to reduce the loading of trucks full of shoebox parts. However, I have never digested trinitroxides-they are just freaks and cannot be sacrificed.

However, the tower is more sturdy, and I bluntly used "beige boxes" as table legs and shelves-at any given time, 2-3 6-foot tall 486 and socket-7 motherboard stacks can also be used. The cards I sold to dealers at the flea market, and ram and cpus became my own cards.

. . . After being forced to realize that I had too many things, fast-tracking to college-more than 90% of things were gradually thrown away or sold (rarely), I slowed down the speed of picking up random things. However, this is a question. Why should I make sure that a certain group of people insist on using outdated and useless things? Anyone remember 2009-2010, when 386, 486 and 6×86 modules were changed from rubbish to gold in the resale market? I clearly remember that I sold my last three cyrix 133/166 cpus on eBay for about $60 each, and then kicked myself on the ass of another 100 or so, and threw it away a few years ago. 20 pounds of rams. . .

After three steps, I made a simple rule-if it is bigger than a shoe box, and I don't need the shoes/components in a particular project now, then it won't appear in the first place. The only exceptions are books and lifetime items, but even those must be rare/esoteric.

I don't worry about kicking myself without insisting on hundreds of other things. If you list all the products, you will flood the market, and the prices of all these products will drop, and it is not even worth buying postage.


This is how I almost bought 3 optical sights for the T-55 tank at auction.

Fortunately, I purchased the first shipment before then.

When I was in 5th or 6th grade, my best friend’s father was an electronic technician and gave me boxes of his old electronic products. The bits and pieces I pulled out of those boxes fascinated me, which eventually made me part of EE. Now, more than 30 years later, I also have a lot of electronic "waste", and I would be happy to give it to someone to inspire in the same way.

Donate it to local elementary schools, boys and girls clubs/after-school care facilities or scout troops.

If your workbench is clean, some people think you have nothing to do. If your company is downsizing, or they want to put some ill-defined items on your desk, this may be a work problem. At the same time, singles colleagues with a "blood chaos" table can get it for free :) Like everything in life, balance needs to be maintained.

However, when you really need space to perform operations quickly, rubbish on the bench becomes an obstacle!

When I was a kid, I would spend a few hours sorting out Dad’s messy bolts and Bob’s Dad’s big coffee can. I will use these parts to make robots and spaceships (hypothetical), then take them apart and put them back in the coffee can. I miss them very much.

My daughter is like this

Except after she never put them back!

There is a place specially created for this! It is called FREEStore on OpenBuilds, which is a great way to provide unneeded parts to another builder/school/manufacturer who really needs it.

It enables other hoarders to increase their hoarding.

But it's none of my business...

I like to keep the smaller things (old ICs), because you might use them even after ten years. I recently used the 7404 that I bought nearly 30 years ago. Collecting old parts facilitates the creative process of hackers and leads people to come up with new ways to use components.

Most of my ICs are listed in the spreadsheet.

I still use 7400 ICs (organized in tackle boxes, many purchased 20 years ago), and can make various devices when the Raspberry Pi or Arduino is overused.

Fortunately, as far as I know, there is no specific law criminalizing ard Juqi, where you can go to jail like murder or driving under the influence.

Good ho!

When the building block becomes a nuisance or danger, it becomes illegal. If the house and property are too out of control, they may be condemned.

I can shake the call sign of the long rows of disturbance accumulators (all SK now), and I am now the curator of these accumulators.

Yes, this piece is really popular...

After joining the Manufacturers Space (Omaha Manufacturers Group), I was introduced to the concept of "clearance day" when all the debris in the store was garbage, recycled or sorted and stored properly. I have started to use the same subjects in the work space. I have stopped using old PCs and instead use virtual machines. If I were to prepare a bunch of parts for a future project, II put them in the container so they would not fall apart. I have organized my tools so that they are always available. If I’m not sure if my item is valuable, I will write an email on OMG’s list and ask them "trash or treasure?" Finally, I think three times, and then bring back some that I don’t plan to convert in the project s things. It took me a long time to get it neat and tidy and I don't want to go back.

If it is not easy to replace, then I will at least try to give it up, maybe throw it on Flea Bay with a sufficient minimum bid to ensure that the transportation is paid, Craigslist, or just put it on the table to reach the maximum interest. A free sign.

Don't get me wrong, it won't all disappear. But...the people there have all kinds of old-fashioned things. The part you just throw away may be exactly what someone desperately wants to complete their project.

Hello, my name is Ken and I am a Catholic.

(Pause, everyone is on the "Hi, Ken" drone, I thank you)

At least I am a high-functioning fanatic. It is relatively independent, I still have a job, and my wife has not left me. This is important because I have a friend...sad in terms of garbage accumulation... (for example, 3 failed office photocopiers. Why?), and his wife finally left him. No joke. I am trying to help him reduce his workload and use dump runs to ease some of my nonsense.

(But junkaholics – confession! When you need parts or some spare parts to fix something else, and you do own it and find it, doesn’t it feel spectacular? Hoarder heroin. I just like being able to solve a project without having to go out and get parts .)

What helped me was to see that it could get worse. But it also depends on my age, guess how long I will spend studying these things, and then see if I have enough time to use all these things.

In any case, I ship at Banggood almost every week, which forces me to throw away old things just to make room.

Yes, going to a biracial or other place and seeing other people trying to get rid of their "trash" made me realize that one day I will be in the same predicament, which gave me the "don't take home!" scene.

I did better. Last time I put all the medicines in one bag and put them at home.

Well, Jenny, I will get rid of some garbage. :/

Has anyone found that this is a matter of time just like other problems? In the past, I regarded it as "my" trash, after which it has undergone several movements, and then mixed with "household" trash, and the overall turbulence was. In addition, completing home repairs and emergency situations in blind emergency rescues is not helpful. Tools and supplies are everywhere. At the end of the "project", I was too exhausted to store things properly (if there is a suitable place) They are a bit old-fashioned. Now, I have some enthusiastic family members who help organize my basement. Some of them are dangerous, some are useless, and some want to clear the space so that I can store their dilapidated furniture.

Dangerous means that they have a bloody smell that needs to be cleaned, and their eyes are shining crazy. As far as they are concerned, the only way is to completely remove everything, and then use SOS to wash away the rest of the pad until You pass paint and then paint again. The second type is useless. It is... they are willing to help, but they don't know anything about classification ideas. You can say: "I want all the books in these boxes, all the spare kitchen supplies in these boxes..." Five minutes later, a kettle was placed in a box half full of books... "There is a room over there "...But I tried to separate things! ! ! …Some of these types helped me through, and I asked them to write down the contents on the box…. I have a lot of boxes of mixed goods labeled "things" and "yes". They contain 2 pieces of VHS tape, some cleaning supplies, a jersey, and the lid of a pan has been missing for many years. The couple decorated a remote control... I caught these people and tried to add more boxes. They helped clean the room upstairs. Now there is another box in it with furniture polish, a piece of cloth, some old mail, a few books. Books, a bunch of flyers... aaaaaargh, flyers and old mail are recycling furniture polish and cleaning cloth in the cupboard! ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . One. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I even threw some of my things on the floor because someone needed a box... to fill up all kinds of things that should be placed elsewhere.

Then there is the third type, they only want the room you want to occupy. They want to renovate, downsize, or anything else. This is an insult to them because your own items are taking up space in your own house, and they might have thrown trash from the house. Yes, they just want to throw garbage. Then some of them, you clean up the space for yourself, go out in the afternoon, there are some things sitting there, their old crib is too good to be thrown away because someone might need it...yes, but not me. The rest of my family did this. One day, I neatly organized my workbench throughout the morning to work on the large server tower unit... I left for 20 minutes, staggered my back from the bulky unit, and washed my workbench. Do laundry... So I also have this kind of psychological barrier: "Moving space is meaningless because it will be filled up."

Some of them, they don’t believe that I don’t need help, so if it is possible that they are nearby, I actually have time to make any classifications. I can't... it makes no sense.... They want to help...mainly because they are usually the source of my lack of time. The car went to three shops, but it still couldn’t run. Only I can fix it... and I curse that every time this happens, it’s irritating Creepy time, use "Sounds like a bad problem, why not stop it here, I will try to solve it next month"... "No, no, look at it now." ... So I see A moment... See the dirty ground, clean it up... It's better... Fuck, now I'm a miracle worker again...

+ 1K!

Brother, you live my life! However, sometimes the first and third examples are the same person. We really have a family member who said: "Let's redo the things downstairs, get rid of the things that I think are of no value, and then I will use your location as storage/second house." They think: clean up our future The completed underground area (including cloth diapers (very expensive, but worth it), antique heirlooms can be traced back to my wife’s 6 generations, baby clothes (my wife was pregnant at the time and was told “just got something like garage sales!” ”), the computer I used for the folding@home project and the radio that is being restored, not to mention the cheap test equipment and expensive repair equipment I bought}, get rid of the bed in the room and use their fitness equipment (never used ) Replace it, replace my 3-month-old plasma TV with its CRT unit (because recyclers charge $20 to take it, and HD is "overrated"), and replace the entire sink because the tap is dripping ( Warranty replacement cartridges). These are the little things they want to accomplish while insisting that we give them a key so they can come in at any time.

Relatives from hell.

I think. complete.

I got rid of one of them, and the other was "Oh, your spare room is empty!" ......Ha, don't we people know the definition of "spare" well?

I must have entered the chaotic philosophy and psychology.

I have found:

– Consumer culture is the cause of confusion. I now have the ability to buy new things, which gives me the ability to take things home, and faster than I can take care of. If I never buy anything, or the purchase rate is much slower, then "chaos" will not be a problem. When buying, I will try to be considerate and considerate. I try to buy second-hand or repair something I already own. Whenever I spend money on goods, it's a mess.

– I keep telling myself that chaos and accumulation are good because they are natural (that is, chaos itself is a natural by-product of my interaction with my own things). I suspect this is a bit incorrect. Consumer culture was born in the first agricultural society and specialized society. It did not evolve with us as a species. This is not a natural process. Rather, it is a technical meme. Our instincts serve our hunting and gathering ancestors, but they are not very scalable and are almost useless without modification.

– I personally don’t like pre-made workspaces. I prefer to set up a prototype workspace that can be reconfigured. Only when I found myself setting the same configuration over and over again did I start looking for ways to make the settings permanent.

– The simplest excuse for messing up is convenience. It is easier to put something in a standing place than to put it away. Therefore, organizational optimization for the purpose of tidying up should focus entirely on making things easier to tidy up. Don’t worry about discovering the problem and labeling everything. Focus on making it easier to put away.

-There is a lot of loose paper everywhere. Get rid of it. If you must keep it, put it in a binder.

-Clean things. Generally, the longer the dirt is left, the more difficult it is to clean it. If you are willing to accept it, immediate cleaning almost always takes half the time.

-My possessions triggered my ADHD. I am distracted. One of my most distracting things is my stuff. Staying tidy, organized and working can save time and make me feel worried and distracted. Keeping this in mind will inform me of some purchases.

"-Consumer culture is the cause of confusion. I now have the ability to buy new things, which gives me the ability to take things home, and faster than I can take care of. If I never buy anything, or The purchase speed is much slower, so "chaos" will not be a problem. When buying, I will try to be considerate and considerate. I try to buy second-hand or repair things I already own. Whenever I spend money on goods, I will It's a mess."

Haha, this is what got me started. I rarely buy new things, install two broken things, make a whole, and then leave a little...

…Other people’s consumer culture confuses me. I really like the treasures on the roadside. Therefore, I am not spending money (I said to myself), nor am I thinking about spending time and storage space.

*Sigh* + 1, Ken. Why should I buy new things when I can piece together several things from the previous generation of products and have more fun?

This is why I have 3 Homelite herbicides.

They can be repaired for less than $10.

I found a very nice old Stihl chainsaw in their "damaged" trash can, removed the bar, and pulled the starter/gas tank in the local Goodwill for $10. I took it home and thought it would be great to rebuild it. Then, I found that the price of the rod was $50, plus the price of the used fuel tank/starter assembly was $60, and the price of the muffler/chain cover assembly was more than $40. After removing all the grease, I found that the handle was cracked in a very bad place. When I can spend a little money on a brand new old machine with a warranty, or spend less money on a second-hand professional machine, it will eventually cost me $200 to get it into operation.

This article resonated with me, and I think I could have written it myself. The sense of guilt was so strong that I saw the usefulness of so many things, so that I persisted endlessly and found that I had no working space. I explain to myself because I have two children, but in fact their only space workshop is a kid’s bike (and that’s just one of them). In fact, I own a large BNC T-connector and terminator block (is it an interconnection point in modern art?), in addition to reminding me of my first computer network that does not involve null modem cables, I There is no other reason to keep it. I have tried several times to narrow the collection, but I never seem to be brutal enough to do this. I don't know how many amazing hackers attributed to the chaotic work space that inspired people's indifference. On the nose as usual!

PS: We should all publish chaotic pictures so that we can inspire each other to be realistic, and the portable inkjet printers in the mid-90s are by no means equal to 3D printers, and you know...

(Secret shame)

Or look at other people's hiding places and hit them with "Are you going to throw that thing?"

This is not a bad idea! One's trash can

Even ordinary desktop inkjet printers are rarely equipped with NEMA stepper motors. In order to obtain motors suitable for 3D printers and desktop CNCs, you need to find hardware from the 1980s and early 1990s. For example, I found NEMA 17 and NEMA 23 in an electronic typewriter. Large office printers will also have them. If you want to get a NEMA 17/23 stepper, the old 132-column dot matrix printer is your best hope. Don't forget that most six-wire steppers can be used as bipolar steppers, so don't throw them away!

The printer/scanner usually has a stepper in it, but you need 5 steppers to get the 5 or so steppers required by the 3D printer/CNC. You can buy the exact stepper for only $10, so why bother with an old printer?

Of course, I can still collect steppers, but I have not found a use for a single device because I can buy new steppers cheaply.

I finally took off my clothes, there are some useful things in it, but I like metal cages, these things are definitely worth holding on :-)

Oh, forget the other one:

-I feel strange about it, but I still do it. I am a little superstitious about cleaning. Whenever I drop something, I treat it as if the universe is punishing me, because it makes the chaos too big. Whenever I find that the universe is angry for a mess (indicating that I lose something and spend a lot of time searching for it in the house), I stop searching and start cleaning. Inevitably, the universe was calmed down, and after several hours of cleaning, I found what I wanted.

When I am full of energy, this is how I usually do it!

"There is a theory that if anyone finds exactly what the universe is and why it is here, it will immediately disappear and be replaced by something stranger and more inexplicable. There is another theory that this has already happened. "-Douglas Adams (Douglas Adams)

I suspect the universe is trying to punish you.

1. Naturally hate vacuum

2. The universe will end in confusion

So, in fact, the universe may be pressing this chaos on you!

It has animation effects, but it works!

My personal rule is that, except for shelves and trash cans, no "storage" space (such as storage units, carports, etc.) is purchased. This is very useful for me and helps eject many large sucking space items (including when I live) with very little rent). Now that I have my own residence and built a 24×36 store, I started to pick things under the roof and put them in the trash can marked with shelves, where I could find it.

So far, everything is going well. Ran into one or two boxes of random electronic circuit boards/wires/etc. And have merged them into one. If it is not suitable, it will [output]. It’s a pleasure to discover the trash cans saved for the "Dream Store"... the collection of more than ten years can only be deployed in the building.

I have given up a lot of things (usually things at work), and since I grew up, I have rarely studied electronics, which is difficult. My most recent splurge was saving a lot of old POTS phones for a friend’s art project, and I’ve been doing this all year round.

My biggest problem is car spare parts... But when the car is gone, it can easily be separated from everything in the car. Similar to electronic equipment, but actually dirty and usually heavy.

The best way is to help friends fix important things by going into a random trash can (for them) and pulling out the parts they need to save the bacon.

I have a rule about small tips, which is "nanny and hanger". If you can hang it on the wall, you can buy it. If it's a nanny, I can't buy it. If it is a temporary worker who can be converted into a hanger, I can buy it. As for the project parts, I do not keep electronic products because I work for an electronic product distributor and get all products at a price 10% higher than the cost. :^) If there is electronic "junk" at work, I will mail it to Makerspace after confirming that they want it.

I am a lady (I take your name as the basis) working in an electronics distributor? How are you'?

Guilty as mentioned before. The first item in my inventory spreadsheet is the ubiquitous 1N914. My inventory is less than 30,000. Maybe it will be useful someday...I hope.

That's only in electronics. There is also an airplane/auto parts list for RC models...and then car parts...motorcycle parts... Together with the remaining 3 generations of tools, I can distribute my tools in large numbers. Then there are antique kitchen equipment...all manually operated...

If you have hoarding... just do it in style!

You can connect at least three and a half KB ROM to 7kB, if you think half will be zero.

I also have some questions about the passion for spinning. Although I think the model error will not be bitten again, it has been ten years and the price seems to be high, so it should be honored.

OMG! no. A small part of the rule that worked for me is: "If I can’t organize it well and do some sort of inventory, then it will be eliminated." For larger items (such as my fully functional Epson HX-20 or Apple [e] It’s a bit difficult to decide. Apple is gone.

I really can't say that these are collections in "Rotating Passion". I am not collecting things from temporary enthusiasm, but from long-term serious interests. Temporary enthusiasm creates temporary collections... and trash leaves with enthusiasm.

Keeping things relatively organized is the prerequisite for "keeping things".

Just this week, a colleague reminded me that he needs a "BNC separator". I found my collection :-)

Just last week, I was helping my father organize his garage and indoor lockers in preparation for shrinking/moving. He mainly hoards timers and steel, as well as some bicycles and car parts, but does have some electronic devices: a few beautiful ammeters, some other car accessories, and old bakelite light switches in good condition-it's so good to switch! Oh, there are more wrenches, you can't poke it.

Confession: I have a cable, as shown in Figure 1. The attic is full of...resources!

I limit my garbage collection to 3 small boxes and one shelf in the shed. This is the limit I am willing to manage.

For me, this is a cross-country sport. Although it has spent a lot of money, I still found an electronic recycling station to recycle old Palm (pilot) development parts, various cables and things, and some old CRT monitors...

My current problem is that there is almost a maker space in my backyard, but they still don't have 24/7 access. So I am unwilling to resolve the deadlock.

I have gotten used to it and have made great progress in reclaiming space. At this point, my main task is to dispose of garbage, but I don't want